Screaming (to get out of well!He would have a height if he were standing back on solid ground instead of in a well? It might not be important to the listener what size the piece of cake was, but to them it is. Bishop PD, CHP flying overthey had their copter today. "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCjYbYrSqpg 4mins-David. I watched the first few minutes till I realised that this documentary was based upon William being taken by Bigfoot. Why not by the boys? This is what makes the difference between the kinds of people we meet in our everyday lives. The operator maybe already knew by that point in her questioning, that the mother wouldnt know her sons height. Any vehicles?Foster Mother: No, no, no, no well not that I no not that I'm aware of. New information led to a renewed search of the foster grandmother's home and surrounds where William was last seen. As Mark McClish said it can be used to suggest thats all I did when making a statement. If we look at the 911 call we see the time of Williams disappearance given at approximately 10:30.Operator: OK. I would also expect stay out or something similar instead of leave. I think she sold him to a pedo.That is why she kept saying he was wearing bright colors, you couldn't not see him. We talked the whole way home. Thats odd. Heres a snippet from the end of his answer, compare the edited original to my personal transcript.P: What do you think has happened to William?Original:This is not a child gone missing in the bush, this is heading down the path of abduction or something more sinister. Its exactly what she did later on. If it raises the chance of getting/finding your child back, who cares what is needed? The only thing I can think of is that somebody saw William at the McDonalds (where the family stopped to eat underway) and followed the family to Nannas house hoping they could snatch William away at some point. (con't). The foster mother of Tyrrell, who disappeared in northern NSW in 2014, was charged with giving false or misleading evidence to states crime commission. I don't, I don't know what she's got and if she's out in the desert, it's hot here. Both his foster and biological parents were quizzed, as were neighbours who helped in the search. Instead, she starts by explaining why she took photos of him that morning. He screamed/roared once and then fell silent. Another interesting thing in terms of location is that Karlies father (Zachary) reportedly said he found one or more footprints of her in the White Mountains. She is (holding picture up) 5 foot 7hold onlets do this goodwait, there she is. It is the only misspelling in the document which is interesting and as most people check through what they have written before posting it stands out.What strikes me most about the message is that Melissa is suggesting a crime (lawbreakers) has been committed and that Karlie may never come home what if she never comes home?. If the child is supposedly with someone, like a baby sitter, is the babysitter known to be violent? She puts the extra word in do when it is not needed, [because] we [do] live by a highway. Maybe because two cars were involved. Someone asked what I meant and I clarified. Its as if they are in hiding.The foster parents also i.m.o. I.e. In analyzing the two statements, her first one (October 13, 2018) flags for deception much easier. To the question of how long he has been missing, she responds with halting, broken sentences, switching pronouns (I, I, We), and a lack of conviction. The foster mother told the court how she was told not to call Mr Laidlaw, but to instead go through other investigators on the team. Secondly we could believe the usage of the word just(thats all/only) as genuine which would mean that all they did was drive round. ', June: Four charges of breaching the Surveillance Devices Act are laid against DCI Jubelin. If so the other person/s could be someone we dont know about or even William.Adrian. Or did she actually make more photos (three is the liars number)? So he's been missing since about 10:30?Foster Mother: Yeah I'd say so.If we look at the Police media interview: http://williamtyrrelldisappearance.blogspot.com/2015/10/in-their-words-william-tyrrells-parents.htmlWe see the parents asked the following question.P: When did you guys last see him?M: That morning, on the 12th at Mums place.D: About [10.15am].The father was meant to have been at a meeting and arrived home to find William gone but we see in his answer he places he last sighting of William at 10:15. She didnt take her cell phone. The driver turns his car around in the neighbours driveway before exchanging weird glances with the foster mother which she describes as: why are you watching me, I am watching you. According to Melissa, Zac was intoxicated the evening of Oct 12th and that's why she went to pick her up. I'm not a murderer! That's not a reliable denial.Like you said it is not a reliable denial. Does Melissa have knowledge otherwise?- I think that she couldve been abducted or taken because we do live by a highway, and, it happens This sounds like Chris Watts interview on television. So I drove to town, and picked her up. The mind always looks to move blame onto others, it is a built in defence mechanism to protect itself. Did Karlie, in her psychotic state, fire a gun? The coroner orders an urgentprobe into the final image that was taken on the day William vanished as metadata suggests the picture may have been taken 118 minutes earlier than originally thought. Mamamia contacted the group, but they were unable to respond in time for publishing. Adrian. During the inquest she told the court how she thought that was odd because: "The driveways are really long so to walk down the driveways doesn't make sense if you were visiting someone"She says the cars were dirty and old and had tinted windows so you couldn't see through them. However regular contact with his birth parents continued. The 'Where's William Tyrrell' podcast on Network Ten says the average waiting time for parents to ring the police after a child goes missing is two hours. If it was a car accident, it may have occurred before the foster father drove away that morning (supposedly for a business call and to run a few jobs). That wouldnt accomplish anything. She didn't have a water bottle. Similar to when people say "you know" a lot at the end of sentences. This tells us she is very psychologically screwed up. This is not a child gone missing in the bush, this is heading down the path of abduction or something more sinister.Is he buried "down the path" in the "bush"?A female police officer actually said the above quote--they showed it on the 60 minutes interview. She hated her & flung her & threw her & screeched, filled with wild hatred, she violently threw Little Tara and then she screamed & then something happened.What was she mad about?Why grab & throw Little TaraLike that? other daughter may have been to avoid saying what was on her mind, that they were not her own children, thus other foster child came out as other daughter. Like Adrian, I think the following wording is very unusual: nows the part where Im saying I have to do something. She wanted William to grow up being 'socially aware, a good contributor to society and is happy and is fulfilling doing the things he wants to do'. Deputy State Coroner Grahame will hand down her findings at the NSW Coroner's Court on June 18, 2021. This is why the repeated words and sensitivity are there as she cannot truthfully answer that question. What is interesting is that Melissa introduces the word murderer. I love you all, everybody please watch. I am new to this forum and am learning so much about statement analysis. He knows me, said Pence, who served as governor of Indiana when Buttigieg came out as gay during his reelection campaign for mayor.Does that sound like a threat? What interests me in the sentence is she says I was out there talking with my mum and my [other] daughterShe feels a need to differentiate between her daughters. We expect to hear just started driving all around [looking for her]/ [searching for her]but the connection isn`t made.Without a connection we have people who are just driving around without reason. Wasnt she supposed to be inside? His status as a foster child wasn't even confirmed to the public until three. In July 2014, they took William to Bali on a holiday and it was there they bought the Spider-Man obsessed toddler his blue-and-red Spider-Man suit. The last time that I [spoke] to her was 5:30. If you are able to speak to someone, cant you see them as well? Also, why does she use present tense here? Video taken before he vanished showed him calling his foster dad, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, 'daddy', and the couple refer to themselves as William's mum and dad. And, she hadn't smoked weed in a month. "No other family member should ever feel the need to fight tooth and nail in order to maintain commitment to find out what happened," she said. And ,I don't have anything to hide. And I wanted to put it out there. No. There is ingratiation, but it is there as an attempt to butter the recipient up. She, I made her eat a powerbar and she was just very paranoid. The public were only a couple of years ago. I get the impression she may have tried to revive him in vain. If she did say this then we note that she brings the bike closer to her, she has a strong connection with it. A car has been seized from a property in Sydney as part of fresh investigations into the disappearance of William Tyrrell seven years ago. Was Melissa wondering out loud if her narrative was plausible?-[You] is distancing language. She may be deceptively withholding Karlies location and what happened at the house. The second use of the word had been omitted from the original transcript but if you watch the clip it is there.We then see the father tell us he [had] this instinct about him which tells us the father knows William no longer has it.Adrian. I think you may be onto something with your speculations about roaring, Michael. State park. [ Missing pronoun] watched a movie and she was just still kind of paranoid. So, it seems that Melissa goes back in time when her brothers were still awake and could watch a movie.You are right-Melissa does use the word whole when her sentences are complete without it. Further update: William Tyrrell's foster mother charged with giving William Tyrrell's sister has been removed from the care of her parents. My Mum is coping with her own grief because it happened at her house, its just awful. 2. A Supreme Court justice allowed his foster care status to be revealed in August 2017, in what had been an open secret to those who had followed the case for years prior. 'Kind of strange that the fact that authorities had been "flying over" gave the stepmother the urge to say "I have to do something". What other description of a vehicle is there than a physical one (again: is that standard Amber Alert language?). However, a cancelled meeting allowed the family to make the four-hour trip north on September 11, a day ahead of schedule. ?I thought the washing machine was broken and they were waiting on a part?Usually you wouldnt use a machine if you were waiting on a part ,as you wouldnt want to do any more damage to it.Must have been very desperate to use that machine. CINDY ANTHONY: I know. The mind wants to solve and rationalise things which is great, but the flip side is that it will try to make sense of the garbage we are told by criminals and Politicians (interchangeable words I know). "We have had six years of pain and broken promises we are still grieving, we are angry and frustrated, and we want answers. In the case of William's foster mother: does the world seemingly stop turning when you can't immediately see/hear your child? Detectives take items for testing including a mattress, computer and vehicles. Telling the story, a story which shows by their own words they know 99% of what happened. 'We just don't have our boy. William's foster mother does not like the Spider-man suit image of William which has become synonymous with his case, saying it is a 'bittersweet' reminder of the lost boy, The foster parents were careful about William's nutrition, but allowed him (above) a fast food stop at McDonald's at the halfway point en route to Kendall the day before he vanished. : TV is broken); or (3) expected behavior of a person is absent (e.g. William Tyrrell's foster-mother has broken down on the stand recalling the moment she thought that her son's abductor also planned to take her daughter. In the above quote the foster mother clearly and repeatedly links taking pictures of William to the concepts of passing away and grave (of her late father). When you say arriving quickly it sounds like driving. He wasn't there, leading police to issue a warrant for the arrest of his biological mother. William was pretending to be a lion. She did not get the number plates, because the cars were not significant to her at that time she said tearily. Every day I wake up, I`m just hoping and praying that I get to go home. The stay-at-home mum from Sydney's west has two younger sons who remain in her custody, and William's older sister, who is also in foster care. Operator: OK, so I've got the nearest cross street being Ellendale crescent, is that right? Melissa mentioned that they would potentially have the helicopter do the search all the way down to, like, Laws. There were plenty of tears in the public gallery when the foster mother described having to return to Sydney after the initial nine-day search, which covered more than 50 square kilometres. But en route to Kendall they would allow William to eat at McDonald's, Heatherbrae, the halfway point, where the three-year-old was captured on CCTV the day before he disappeared. "We want to thank the coroner; we think she cares.". When the mother says she saw two cars when she opened the curtains that morning, she was probably right. He places himself at the scene.This is a classic example of how people minds automatically try to make sense of what they are being told, how we end up helping a liar by finding a way to makes their lies make sense. "He's got um dark sandy coloured hair, it's SHORT and he's got really big ah brownie/grey coloured eyes." How much time has passed? William Tyrrell's foster parents have been charged with common assault of a child. , updated Autumns last post led me here.I want to put this on blast because I [dont know] what to do to consider her a missing person. We don't know who's got him. But that isn't the only reason the identity of children like William remains protected. CINDY ANTHONY: Is there any -- CASEY ANTHONY: Mom, we`re not talking -- I can`t. The child is not William Tyrrell. The foster mother had intended taking family photos of William placing a drawing on Opa's grave, which is in Kendall cemetery on a ridge above the Benaroon Drive house. Realizing just in time she shouldnt give such details she quickly switched to Nanna and her daughter/other child (this switch may have also caused her to say other-> as in: other than William). And I was like, how could I have missed her, you know? She stops him from talking about it and takes over.She says and I remember saying can you see daddys car? She didn't want to get in the front seat so she got in the backseat behind her. From a recall we expect something like my wife ran over and asked if I had seen William. However, they went one day earlier. Why the need to specify for a toddler boy that his hair is SHORT?This is unnecessary information and it must imply that the hair is either shaved off or long. William's foster parents who cannot be named for legal reasons became emotional as they handed a book of photographs to Deputy State Coroner Harriet Grahame before she closed the inquest at Lidcombe Coroners Court, in Sydney's west on Thursday. I am just listening to the Nancy grace interview Leigh linked to.The parents were not very helpful at all. If the parent returned to find their child had drowned in their short absence what will they do? She does return to his question with I thought it could be five, it could be longer. Without being asked , she reports the reason why, cause he was just playing around here. She is preempting the question of why she isnt sure how long her son has been missing, adding to the sensitivity of timing. A missing person is only considered 24 to 48 hours. [Just racing], just, just wanted to get on that bike and just ride it.and he was just in [heaven]. The use of the word heaven is not an uncommon statement but we must consider that due to the nature of the case and the language in the case pointing to William being run over its use may have more significance. A black book of never-before-seen photographs of the three-year-old boy was handed to Deputy State Coroner Harriet Grahame at the conclusion of an inquest into his disappearance. William Tyrrell's 10-year-old sister has made an emotional promise to find her sibling, telling an inquest into his disappearance she wants to become a detective and solve the case. I would expect them to feel utterly sorry for (and guilty towards) the biological parents since they must realize that the biological parents are completely heartbroken too. The SA with the added layer of body language does give the definite proof of deception on her statement.Adrian. Could it be she'd referred to a child she foster cared before but wasnt living there anymore or wasnt with them at grandmother home? It was [like] when a child hurts themselves unexpectedly there's a scream," she recounted to counsel assisting the coroner Gerard Craddock SC on day-two of the inquest "It [felt] like a scream," she said of September 12, 2014, the day he vanished from his foster grandmother's rural property at Kendall, on the NSW mid-north coast. Also: in the police interview she talks about her brothers' kids running the street around Nanna's house with no fear. The sentence would be fine said as with my mum and daughter, the listener would not be confused with that, and we would be none the wiser. My daughter is a freshman in high school and I have been teaching her the principles of sa and she used it the other day and helped a friend in need! We note that.Compare that information with what follows:Where is William: 60 Minutes_Part 1 of 3_September 6, 2015 If you watch this video and skip to the 11m 44s point you will see the parents talk of the car.She says and I remember saying can you see daddys car? Are you ever right there with anyone in bed? One of the three photos is of William in the Spiderman outfit on Nannas patio (so we know exactly how long Williams hair was that day). He was a boisterous and energetic child and his sometimes unruly behaviour with other children at child care became of concern the foster mother. Could it be a subtle form of disparaging her missing son? NSW boy William Tyrrell was aged three when he went missing in 2014. William Tyrrell's former foster mother knows where he is, NSW detective It's time for William to come Posted by W4W Walking Warriors Australia onThursday, 24 August 2017. They are not from a Police interview or news report, she has given us them freely, but why? And, now I can release more information about the events, just, lots of questions that I haven't been allowed to talk about because of the investigation. I think in all this green, Ive got to see some red somewhere. William Tyrrell was three years old when he disappeared. Its a bit of a tongue twister say as well. There is so much to decipher in this statement. and in her eyes when William failed to become a daughter she then saw him as "bad" or evil.The father leaving the house to get a better signal on his phone (prior to William's disappearance) is exactly like the Deorr Kuntz case where the father left the area to get a better cell signal. and I said 'Well I can't find him" and she said What do you mean? And, I want you guys all to know. When there is suspected drug use, the missing child is further marginalized. William Tyrrell's biological father, on the right, attends the inquest.Credit: Nick Moir. In that case it would still be in the wrong order though (you first walk out from the porch and then around the house). On Wednesday, she told The Daily Telegraph of the toll the tragedy has had on herself and her family. "Melissa is asking herself (and her audience) , how do I make this narrative plausible? She may be withholding something more incriminating, including known associations. She was scared. Maybe in her mind, William was her daughter. television rather than watching the child, and the child is abducted, the mother may show signals of guilt that is not due to the abduction. Their relationship with police went from "empathetic" to "cold" when Detective Chief Inspector David Laidlaw took over one of Australia's most puzzling missing child cases. Which one was playing "hide and seek" "daddy tiger" with William? Other peoples kids that may watch 3. The couple are wealthy professionals from Sydney's north shore and had the Tyrrell children in their custody for about two years before the tragedy. Again, as mentioned by the mother, this story is ridiculous. Was she screaming, did she look worried etc.., those are things which should be etched in his memory.then I [immediately got out of the car] He feels a need to tell us he got out of his car immediately which is not necessary, in fact to tell us he got out of his car at all is not necessary. The world is cruel and the world is real it doesnt matter where you live because you just never know. I better not give an opinion on this or I will probably get my post pulled [but] it sounds like something from Shakespeare if you know what I mean.Adrian. The foster mother was working from home on the day before William vanished, her husband out having meetings with clients or colleagues, when they made a snap decision to get their cats boarded for the night, grab William and head up to Kendall a day early. They sold the five-bedroom house with a swimming pool where William had lived from early 2012 until his disappearance for more than $4million last year. Next we have she was just hanging out, again we see the insertion of the word just which is not needed.Finally we have the direct lie and the leakage. ^ William and his biological sister were fostered together - the little girl still lives with the foster parents - her biological mother wants her back. Listen to The Quicky debrief on the truth about William Tyrrells parents, and what happened after the three-year-olds disappearance. Seen if parted on the left? She must have walked out of somewhere and that must be the house which means she is deceptive on multiple counts.She tries to convince about the distance to the child by using the word seriously and couples that with minimising language with the word just and then gives conflicting information about her location. Isn't she supposed to speak from memory? He is not praying for his safe return but for a miracle, the miracle would be for him to return alive. P: Parents know their own kids, dont they?D: He [was] cautious, hed cower away as little children would normally do, but he [was], he [had] this instinct about him about doing the right and wrong thing.How long after he went missing was this statement?When a person goes missing, there are factors to consider:1. I am aware there are many reasons for past tense usage in statements. What did he like to do?M: Wed got him a bike for his birthday, so wed all go bike riding together, and he was just in [heaven]. She did photo books of what they did as a family every year. Deception IndicatedAdrian, I have wondered the same thing. Her motivation is self-preservation.Adrian. For there to be an other daughter, there has to be a primary/first daughter. It may be genuine but it may not be.We also have the problem with the overwhelming amount negative language. We could consider its misspelling accidental but it could also be a subconsciously guided mistake. "William's empty car seat next to his sister's in the back seat absolutely tore our hearts," she said. And I just thought, I want to just take some pictures of that.This is very interesting. Some aunts, for example, raise children as their own, and should be viewed closer to being a "mother" than an aunt.Fathers will often be a close second. Mentions run those streetsFather: hes always looking out for me and my car connection to carFather: I mean, he wouldnt, hes not a wanderer, he wouldnt [even cross the street] by himself. William Tyrrell's foster-mother feared her daughter would be abduction target. On Thursday, detectives from strike force Rosann which was established to investigate Tyrrells disappearance issued a 56-year-old woman with a court attendance notice. William Tyrrell's foster mother has been acquitted of giving false or misleading evidence. I would expect the focus on we need to find her she is missing. If you have time, listen to that episode because they both sound intoxicated on the air and Nancy Grace is frustrated with the interview. Statement Analysis : William Tyrell Missing Emergency Call So the liar is vague and minimises details when necessary. I'll take a look at the foster mother's use of "just" and see if I have an opinion about it.Autumn. The parents had an opportunity to get information out about karlie on air and they didn't want to take it.Adrian. On the morning of September 12, his foster grandmother told police, William was 'full of beans, jumping out of his skin with energy'. Seventy-four per cent of children who are abducted and murdered by strangers are killed within three hours of being abducted, the court heard. In the Police interview she tells us Williams sister must learn to be an [only child]. The fact that Melissa cannot recall the events correctly points to her fabricating (very badly) her story. Did the person go missing in a high crime area? Then shaving it off? Was/were the foster mother and/or Nanna in Nannas car while William disappeared? As if she feels a need for justification. His status as a foster child wasn't even confirmed to the public until three years after he disappeared, and has become the source of much confusion in the years since. Also it was kept quiet by police etc that William and his sister were in foster care. Deception indicated.Melissa wasn`t lying when she said that she was just there physically Karlies body was there, but unfortunately she was not alive at that time. This link has the foster dad's police interview, can this be analysed pleasehttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1889904/Video-Moments-William-Tyrrells-disappearance-described-father.html. This comes less than a day after police applied for an apprehended violence order (AVO) against the pair..
